tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9175270679391521447.post42691137721852277..comments2024-01-11T04:23:41.813-06:00Comments on ColRebSez: Taxing other people for public good is not ChristianityCol. Reb Sezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02962693457509336759noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9175270679391521447.post-53120659391075811212012-01-13T18:18:01.461-06:002012-01-13T18:18:01.461-06:00OH MY, Frank!
You still have the style that makes...OH MY, Frank!<br /><br />You still have the style that makes me laugh and knash my teeth at the same time!Ender1958https://www.blogger.com/profile/11719188574585261528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9175270679391521447.post-29282089568561401622012-01-12T15:12:04.664-06:002012-01-12T15:12:04.664-06:00Point is definitely taken, Colonel, and I will enc...Point is definitely taken, Colonel, and I will encourage all of my liberal friends (and they are many, but not all) not to be critical of those Christians ...Ignatiusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9175270679391521447.post-79551769908350325742012-01-12T14:10:45.670-06:002012-01-12T14:10:45.670-06:00Ignatius,
I made a point of saying I was not argu...Ignatius,<br /><br />I made a point of saying I was not arguing for or against any welfare program, but rather the notion that if one is opposed to a program it makes one a "bad Christian."<br /><br />I do think you make a good point about the Religious Right.<br /><br />The point of my blog post was that arguments can be made for or against a lot of these welfare programs. If one honestly and truly believes that they are harmful to society, it doesn't make one a "bad Christian" to be against them. And I don't think it makes one a good Christian to support programs that are paid for by someone else.Col. Reb Sezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962693457509336759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9175270679391521447.post-88895424721057643162012-01-12T13:22:48.818-06:002012-01-12T13:22:48.818-06:00I find the history of the books of the Bible fasci...I find the history of the books of the Bible fascinating, moreso than the Bible itself. We could discuss the selective picking of certain verses and books as authoritative (or not) for awhile, but I have a different point to make. <br /><br />You talk about the "nutty" Religious Left. Don't you think that the Religious Right should put its public policy where its dogma is? They seem to want it both ways. Children praying in school. Men praying in the public square. The 10 commandments posted in public places. The recognition that this country was founded on Christian principles. Why should the teachings of Christ not be reflected in our public policy? <br /><br />Overpopulation is your answer? Really? Dependency on the welfare state making welfare recipients lazy?<br /><br />Sorry. I don't accept that. I "got" Christianity early in life because the lesson is quite simple: it's about the ultimate sacrifice - willing to give your life - for your fellow man even if he is your enemy and has struck you in the face. Even if he is a pariah among your people ...Ignatiusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9175270679391521447.post-87860248736394005482012-01-11T15:24:39.082-06:002012-01-11T15:24:39.082-06:00Ignatius,
You are stuck with the Book of Romans. ...Ignatius,<br /><br />You are stuck with the Book of Romans. Paul wrote or dictated it according to most scholars. Same for the Corinthians.<br /><br />Understanding that the anti-woman bias of Timothy is not in fact endorsed by Paul is a message that needs to get out. But I'm not sure the average evangelical understands that the books of the New Testament were declared by Athananasius in 367, selecting from various translations of the same book and excluding many texts that were determined not to be legitimate. But given the hundreds of texts he had to choose from he couldn't have gotten it perfectly right.<br /><br />Knowing what is and isn't accurate in the Bible can be troubling. Even the story where Christ says "He who is without sin should cast the first stone," is said to have been added later, although the story itself is believed to be true and for that reason was added by another author.<br /><br />I've often wanted to do some research or reading about some of the rejected Gospels, such as that of Thomas or Peter, but I haven't studied the accepted Bible enough yet!Col. Reb Sezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962693457509336759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9175270679391521447.post-68031732031147013042012-01-11T14:12:18.209-06:002012-01-11T14:12:18.209-06:00I really enjoyed Bart Ehrman's "Misquotin...I really enjoyed Bart Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus." I've read it twice and cannot say that about many books. <br /><br />Does your analysis mean that we do not have to pay attention to 1 Timothy and 2 Corinthians? (You knew you were getting in deep.) If so, is there any way that we can get rid of the Book of Romans? It can be quite pesky in these modern times of debauchery.Ignatiusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9175270679391521447.post-51788477713445099502012-01-11T13:15:40.826-06:002012-01-11T13:15:40.826-06:00I may be getting in deep here, but I don't bel...I may be getting in deep here, but I don't believe either book of Timothy was written by Paul. Many scholars say they were written by an admirer who put his own interpretations into them. A study of words and construction used in Acts versus Timothy bears this out (think Joe Klein and Primary Colors).<br /><br />In the early church, women played a leading role. Why? Because worship usually took place in the home, which was the domain of the woman. By the time Timothy was written Christians were meeting in a more public sphere, and thus the so-called "Paul" of Timothy instructs women to keep quiet and obey their husbands, and to stay out of church leadership.<br /><br />Here's a link to a course I listened to that covers this. Don't buy unless it is on sale, which happens at least once a year. http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/courses/course_detail.aspx?cid=656Col. Reb Sezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962693457509336759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9175270679391521447.post-2412779492518546972012-01-11T12:00:06.519-06:002012-01-11T12:00:06.519-06:00Interesting post, Colonel. Made me run to look at ...Interesting post, Colonel. Made me run to look at Bible quotes on charity so, if nothing else, you accomplished something no one else has in recent years. I found a couple of contradictory quotes (go figure; both are written by Paul) including one specifically that supports your analogy. <br /><br />2 Corinthians 9:7<br />Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.<br /><br />1 Timothy 6:17-19<br />Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.<br /><br />The word "command" jumped out at me as compulsory, that is, within the realm of the government to entertain, but is arguably not.Ignatiusnoreply@blogger.com